By SBI SOCCER
Although Emerson Hyndman has received considerable interest this summer, it does not look like he is set to depart Fulham any time soon.
Goal USA reported Monday that Hyndman, 19, will remain with the Championship club through the transfer deadline and not head elsewhere. The promising midfielder had reportedly been the subject of numerous loan and transfer offers, but Fulham has decided to retain the player.
In the final year of his contract, Hyndman was reportedly targeted by Spanish outfit Elche and Dutch side Cambuur, among other clubs, in the aftermath of a strong Under-20 World Cup run.
Currently with the U.S. Under-23 Men’s National Team for a pair of friendlies before Olympic qualifying begins in October, Hyndman has not yet featured for Fulham this season.
What do you think about Fulham reportedly wanting to keep Hyndman? Worried about his lack of playing time at the club? Think he will eventually break back into the first team lineup this season?
Share your thoughts below.
I totally agree with what L says. EH should resign and be loaned out until Christmas to a League 1 team, this would give him much needed game time to make him ready for the championship run in after Christmas. I rate him I think he could be a very good player in time.
Were be mad not to sign him and give him oppurtunities this season.He is the best passer in our squad and his vision for feeding the forwards at 19 is incredible. Best soultion is sign him a new deal and send him to a legue 1 club until January then bring him bak league hardned for a iring 2nd half of the season!!!
The fact that Hyndman is in the last year of his contract means that his value is decreasing each month. If he doesn’t resign w/ Fulham he’ll leave on a free transfer at the end of the year. The only way for Fulham to receive any compensation for him (recouping cost of his youth training) is to either sell him now or resign him. Since he doesn’t appear to want to re-sign Fulham would be better off getting whatever they can for him now.
He’s under 23 so if he signs on a Free Transfer then Fulham will have the value set by a tribunal. So it’s not like they get nothing, it’s just likely not a lot.
I have watched this lad over the past 4 seasons and in my opinion is one of the best talents we have, Within a couple of years could be another Jonny Haynes
Fulham wants to keep him and re-sign him, it’s as simple as that. At the end of last season they made his re-signing, along with other young players Marcus Bettinelli and Mousa Dembele (the younger) a priority. They’ve signed Bettinelli and are still working with Dembele and Hyndman. They’ve spent a lot of money developing and paying him, why would they sell him to some small budget clubs? If Hyndman wants first team minutes, he needs to get to the weight room. The Championship is a physical league and he gets pushed off the ball far too much. He lost his job to Lasse Christensen, whi may not be as technically gifted as Emerson, but is taller and outweighs him be more than 25 pounds.
He needs to commit to Fulham and sign a new contract. Fulham want players committed to the Club playing. His time will come and Fulham has been good for Emerson.
Exactly, a club isn’t going to invest minutes in a young player, if that player can just leave on a free transfer the following season. Staying with Fulham is much better then signing with a Premier league side that’s probably going loan you out, right back to the Championship.
Jack,
How is the EPL player going on loan to a Championship club not as well off as the player who stays in the Championship with Fulham?
If you’re a club and you have 2 players that are about equal in quality. One whose contract you own and the other on loan. Who are you going to play? Players on loan have to be a clear upgrade from day one. A difference maker that’s going to win matches. If the club owns your contract they are going to be more willing to perhaps work through the difficult times in sake of development. If for nothing else to sell the player on and get a transfer fee.
Jack,
I think I read the loan situation differently from how you do.
Being loaned out usually means the club doesn’t think you can play regularly for their senior squad but won’t get better in their reserves. From that POV being loaned is a good thing. The club is keeping you and making an effort to improve you .
The Green, Bradley and Shea loans were examples of loans that went unexpectedly bad and should not be seen as the “loan norm”
In Green’s and Mikey’s case, there was unexpected instability at the respective clubs after the loans had been consummated that ruined Julian’s and Michael’s time there. In Shea’s case, I’m not sure what happened but it seems Brek might have had issues fitting in.
Typically, the club TAKING ON a loaned player does so because:
1. They don’t have a player in that position as good as him
2. They don’t have the money to buy him
The club LOANING OUT the player does so because:
1. They want them to get playing time which they won’t get at the parent club
2. They think enough of the player that they still want to keep him for the future.
This is what is happening to GZ with his loan to Rangers. Kyle Walker, the right back Yedlin is trying to displace at Spurs, was loaned out three times before finally winning the right back spot for Spurs.
Players are an asset and good clubs make the effort to find the best loans possible because they can be win-win for everyone concerned.
Then there are the bad loans where clubs can’t find anyone to take you off their hands for a good price so they loan you out hoping to showcase you and recoup SOME money from their bad investment ( see Adu, Freddy). This main positive there is that you have great incentive to perform well. Your club is trying to showcase you so they shouldn’t loan you somewhere where you can’t play.
The real issue here is what does Fulham think of Hyndman at this point?
Is their relationship soured by his failure to sign a contract? Do they now have other players who are maybe better prospects ? Has Emerson moved down the pecking order?
I don’t know the answer to these questions and I doubt anyone on SBI does. But I do know that answering them will give everyone a much better idea as to Hyndmann’s future at Fulham.
This was a great conversation to read. Good on both of you.
Brek Shea made waves but was really ruined by not fitting in Mark Hughes’ system at Stoke. And Hughes is a huge factor in Fulham getting regulated which is where he was before going to Stoke. And of course Brek Shea was coached by Schellas Hyndman, Emerson’s grandfather while at FC Dallas where Shea made waves also.
Ralph,
So Emerson’s problems with Fulham are all Brek Shea’s fault?
Okay, got it.
Chicharito has joined Bayer Leverkusen. Sorry Orlando. Is Kiessling injured? Does Leverkusen play with two strikers or will it be Kiessling and Chicharito battling for the starting spot?
They play in a one striker system. He’ll be competing for minutes with Kiessling and Swiss International Amir Mehmedi. With the sale of Song, they might change their system, but i’m not sure Hakan Çalhanoğlu can pair with just Bedner behind him. Not even defense in the center of midfield.
I’m not sure what Fulham stands to gain from this. Manager doesn’t rate him, they can get a transfer fee from one of their U21s, a kid they’ve developed for years gets to take the step they’ve been preparing him for…
I feel like they’re making an example of Emmo to their U21 crop.
Just because he isn’t getting first team games, it doesn’t mean the club doesn’t value him. Seriously, how many 19 year olds are getting first-choice minutes in CM anywhere in Europe?
Elche and Cambuur are very small-budget clubs. I’d be surprised if the bids were even $1 million. I wouldn’t blame Fulham if they thought they could get more for the kid down the road, particularly as he is clearly not the finished product yet.
I think it’s dangerous to automatically assume that these clubs have genuine interest in actually using Hyndman. It’s just as likely that they intend to buy as a speculative investment, much as similar teams have done in the past with Jozy Altidore (Villareal), Freddy Adu (Benfica) and perhaps even DeAndre Yedlin (Spurs). The fact is that players from the US (and CONCACAF generally) are cheap. And if you “miss” on an investment, the damage is relatively negligable. Just discard the guy and move on.
Fulham is at least a relatively known quantity, and has been a consistently friendly destination for CONCACAF players. Is rolling the dice with some other club really better?
Plenty of 19 year olds get first team minutes. This is Fulham, not Real Madrid
FFC is trying to recover from relegation followed by a tough first Championship season, and so I expect them to be looking hard at where they can upgrade. It is not an ideal situation for a player already there looking to make a reputation because past performance says the team hasn’t played well and should be trying different things.
Who exactly? I don’t count many in CM. Not even in MLS. And certainly not many who have gotten more exposure than Hyndman.
Certainly, it’s more common with forwards and wingers, who can offer blazing pace at this age, which compensates for their still-growing awareness of the game. Hyndman is nothing special in terms of physical size or speed…he has good technical ability but his biggest asset is between his ears, and that aspect is still developing.
If you are trying to tell me that a central midfielder is somehow “behind schedule” at 19 because he’s only gotten a hatful of first team games, I think you’re way overboard.
Not saying he’s behind schedule but Kellyn Acosta and Marky Delgado are playing every week at a level that’s at least pretty close to Fulham. I’m not going to sit here and list every under 20 CM in Europe. There are plenty.
He needs to start playing this year. He fact they’re holding on to him is a good sign and those offers weren’t that great but another year playing U21s isn’t great.
The Championship is a deeper league in terms of quality players on each team, so I doubt Delgado and Acosta would be regularly players there, but I agree that he should be finding a place to play. Recent examples are Mike Grella (good starter) and Bradley Wright Phillips (great MLS players) are two players who could not hack it at Championship level, but were perennial League 1 players. MLS hovers between League 1 and Championship level with the best MLS teams being mid-tier championship level in terms of starting talent (not squad depth – although LA is deep).
Hyndman is playing at a higher level.
Please stop. Just stop trying to compare leagues based on who did what where. It makes no sense. Every team is a unique circumstance and a players value is almost entirely subjective based on style of play and whoever the current manager is.
Di Maria struggled in the EPL so now you’re claiming that EPL is above La Liga? You can’t cite two players who struggled in England but found a foothold in MLS when comparing the strength of the leagues.
No sh*t Sherlock! Of course there are different styles across all leagues and sometimes there’s fit. I have made a similar argumnet about Jozy being a better fit in France and Germany than EPL or Spain for the past 3 years. However, even a blind man can see that the style in MLS is similar to championship style soccer without as much on the ball skilled players. So when responding to statement comparing championship level of play (Slowleft) ), one can make the comparison. I cited 2 as examples, but I could cite more including fanboy favorite on this board, Robbie Rogers.
I would give you some but I don’t know about plenty. Not playing in Spain, EPL, Germany, Italy, or France. Apparently, pretty easy to break in the Scottish Championship though.
It’s not inherently a “selling club,” we don’t per se develop to sell. It was when he was signed an EPL team, an end in itself. They treated Dempsey accordingly.
I think they’ll sell in the winter to the best bidder, and until then he’s around and we’ll see if he’s in plans or not. I’m not 100% sure he’s been sitting recently for purely sporting reasons. He did play last year a fair amount, same coach (Symons).
Why are they so intent of keeping him if they aren’t going to play him?
Asset value. And I assume they are waiting on better offers for the asset.
waiting for a better offer than whatever Cambuur (who?) or Elche (?) are offering!
beto,
If they don’t play him, how are the offers going to get better?
He’s going to play in the Olympics if the US qualify. If he does, the offers could get better without it having been a result of his play at Fulham.