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CONCACAF Champions League: A night to forget


Two goals for, nine goals against.

That was the final tally when all was said and done in the two CONCACAF Champions League play-in series involving MLS teams. Two goals scored, nine goals allowed.


You can blame the ugly results on the boatload of injuries to both New England (which loss its series to Trinidad & Tobago club Joe Public by an aggregate score of 6-1) and Chivas USA (which lost its series to Panamanian club Tauro FC 3-1), or you could choose to ignore that and use the results to condemn MLS for its salary cap and roster constraints.

So which one is it? Give your opinion below:

Share your thoughts on last night’s bloodbath in the comments section below.


  1. This is exactly the sort of kick-in-the-pants Garber and his cohorts at MLS need to make some serious changes to North Americas ‘Premier” soccer league.

    The suits have been making too much money on the backs of the players and clubs for far too long.

  2. I am sick of listening to the FIXTURE CONGESTION whining everywhere!

    New England League 22, Super Cup 5, USOC 3, Champions Lge 2 = 32 games

    Chivas League 22, Super Cup 3, USOC 1, Champions Lge 2 = 28 games

    Puerto Rico League 26, CFU playoff 2, Champions Lge 2 = 30 games

    Montreal League 24, Canadian Champ 4, Champions Lge 2 = 30 games

    Give me a break the Rev’s have played 2 more games than both USL teams and Chivas has played 2 less!

    It is really time to find another excuse!

  3. besides the embarrassment, the stadiums were empty both here and there. It was just hard to watch. Silent stadiums, poor pitches, poor soccer. Bah. I could not watch through these games.

    I am quite DISAPPOINTED nobody has mentioned the pre season PAN PACIFIC CHAMPIONSHIP tourney as well in regards to schedule congestion.

    Also I thought that the CCC was done after this year.

    So now you have MLS Cup, USOC, Superliga, and CCL.

    That should be enough.

    Maybe we can get rid of some congestion by going single table and get rid of playoffs?

    *stirs pot in hopes of getting the comments count to 1000*

  4. Johnny hit the nail on the head. It’s all about the money. It’s all about the owners recouping their losses.

    Listen, these guys want to make money…period. Do you really think Bob Kraft, the Hunts, and/or AEG care if their income supplementing MLS project wins any CONCACAF tourney?? Hell no! They probably don’t even know and/or discuss CONCACAF.

    Does MLS and its owners care about SuperLiga? Yes, because they whore in the Mexican clubs to bring in some extra cash. Unfortunately for us fans, these owners and the League don’t care too much about the CONCACAF tournies.

    Because of this, Steve Nicol will not be judged on his success in these events. He would much rather get blown out, at home, to a T&T side and not have to play another round in this competition. (Especially after he watched the Crew slide by his team in the standings.) Can you really blame these players and coaches?

    It’s about money guys. These owners don’t want to pay out salaries. They want to buy in to the League and not have to spend anything thereafter.

    Us fans do the speaking. We control what happens. The problem is that we are also a loyal bunch that will continue to support the League and our teams within it no matter what. If we stopped going to matches and demanded a better product, you watch how quickly things would start to improve.

  5. .

    Actually, lots of USL players choose to play there instead of MLS because the base salary is something like $34,000 a year, well above MLS. They can’t afford to pay stars but a team full over average players that sticks together for three years will always beat a team of nine average players and two stars who don’t gel due to constant roster shifting.

    USL IS the real grassroots league in North America. If the game has to grow slowly, from the grassroots, I expect USL to be around a lot longer than MLS.

  6. Johnny that’s an interesting point about paying back investors. Never really thought of that but it sounds like it makes at least some sense.

    USL certainly has equal if not worse fixture congestion than MLS at times, but have the advantage of being able to sign new players if someone gets hurt, and not have to worry about a salary cap.

  7. Total embarrasment for the league .. it really hurts. How can we expect to beat Mexican league teams when we can not beat these minnows while in mid-season form? I am rooting for DC (gasp .. I’m a Red Bulls fan) and for Houston to do better. The credibility of the league goes down the toilet with these results. I guess Copa Libertadores participation is only a pipe dream at this time.

  8. Honestly we also need to discuss USL. How is it a second division whose salaries must be half than MLS actually is having success in this event?

    USL teams have the same fixture congestion. In fact Puerto Rico played Wednesday in Costa Rica, Friday in Charleson, Sunday at home and now play Aljeuense again tonight.

    Montreal had a similar schedule.

    These teams have lower paid players yet seem to be doing alright.

    I simply think MLS itself has become arrogant and is doing nothing but tooting its own horn to sell new investors and expand further claiming they have some great product so that AEG, Kraft and the Hunts can recoop their losses from sticking with the league thru tough times. politics indeed.

  9. Most commentors lack the insight to say meaninful things about soccer let alone diagnose the lack of success on the field by the MLS team in the past few days. The simple answer is that team management are NOT (!!!!@) interested in winning these games because they have other agendas at this time.

    They will do better once it becomes evident that there is money in this thing for them. Ditto for the players.

    So, relax, the bad performance has nothiung to do with the quality of play. It is JUST soccer politics as usual.

  10. Tim,

    I agree with everything you said.

    On the salary cap, I believe it should be increased by perhaps $500K to $1 Mill per year to account for rising revenue from advertising and new stadiums. Not a doubling or tripling over night.

    And the first portion of that increase should be dedicated to the shameful $17K “Interships” that these rookies get. Some of the rest should go to making the contracts that teams give out to be solid. No more of this “Player XXXXXX” has been released. Contracts should be solid. If the player doesn’t perform, then the coach who scouted him should be held accountable for a poor selection.

    Getting back to the point of the post, I was shocked to see NE get ripped apart the way they did. Yes, the offense was non-existant but I couldn’t believe how badly the defence played.

    I say it was the logical combinatin of New England’s brutal schedule, major losses to injury, and Joe Public being a good team that had a couple of good games. Give them a hand for executing their gameplan.

    I saw several people in this string mention that the Richardson kid belonged in MLS. I don’t know how old he is but I suspect he won’t be in T&T next season. I thought he was good last week but was exceptional this game. Also, Tierney and Badilla were pathetic in holding him.

  11. Angel,

    I do see your point but, like any business, soccer is driven by economics.

    In England, Brazil, Italy, etc, there is a huge following for the game that guarantees both a television and stadium audience. Purchasing, say the 500th best player in the world (Say, Juan Pablo Angel) may be seen as a coup as the fans might actually have heard of that player and be more likely to purchase a ticket. Most casual American fans would not have heard of the 500th best player in the world and ticket prices won’t really go up.

    There are touraments like the UEFA and Champions league that reward successful clubs with high revenues making it more likely and economically justifiable to purchase top players. There is as of yet no equivilent in North America.

    Television revenues are next to nothing in the US/Canada market. In europe, they are huge. The Premier League receives $60 Million per team.

    In the end, MLS seems confused on what market to go for as they don’t seem to know their customer.

    1. Ethnics fans of Chivas and Club America and Inter Milan are not likely care about MLS no matter how many Mexicans or Irish or Italians they bring in. They’ll watch their homeland’s teams and that’s fine.

    2. American soccer snobs will always demand Manchester United, Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Juventus because that is the “top level” they demand. That’s fine too but I get sick of these people deriding MLS.

    3. That leaves the relatively small portion of the population that doesn’t watch foreign soccer but still king of likes the game. This is the market MLS should be going after.

    Its a paradox. For people to watch, they need the product to be top level. For the product to be top level, the market must already exist to pay for it.

    I think on the whole that MLS is trying to strike that balance. But it won’t be quick.

    As for buying more stars, I dont’ think that is a good idea.

    David Beckman might be the only top star in the world whom would generate enough excitement and money to pay his salary. Henry, ronaldinho, etc would raise some but not enough to pay for themselves.

    I also don’t believe in targeting players to suit local ethnic populations. The Italians really didn’t come out in New York to see Donadoni, the Mexicans really didn’t come out in LA to see Luis Hernandez or Claudio Suarez. Even Blanco’s impact in Chicago has been overstated. Yes, they had a 15% increase in attendance but the whole league had 10% as part of the “Beckham effect”.

    That remaining 5% increase in attendance isn’t enough to pay his $2.5 Mill in salary nor did it affect the TV revenue.

  12. Matt M,

    Very good post. What many don’t understand is that throwing money at the MLS will not solve the talent issue. The franchises will end up over-extending themselves, and ultimately go the way of the NASL.

    You also make a good point about the EPL comparisons. The same 4 or so teams are the only ones with a legitimate shot each year. The American soccer market would not be very receptive to a league that had 3 or 4 teams that could pony up huge salaries and buy championships every year. I know some will immediately say “Well what about baseball and the Yankees, or the Cardinals.” My response would be that baseball rests on much more solid footing in the U.S. than does soccer.

    We simply need to accept that many of these MLS teams in this CONCACAF Champions league are late in the season, playing a clogged schedule, and are dealing with many injuries. There were guys last night for NE that were getting their first start ever in the MLS. However, I will certainly acknowledge that I thought their play was poor, and lacked effort. They just didn’t seem to really care.

  13. Lets face it, the MLS is not the league people think it is. You just can’t build a legit 18 man roster with 2 million dollars. For 2 million we have built some very good teams, but we cannot take this league to the next level without a significant salary cap increase. Until that happens we are a tier 3 league, and will continue to be unless we start spending the money.

  14. ives,

    what do you think about expanding the salary cap only for the teams that qualify for the international tournaments? that would have the added effect of making the regular season and mls cup more appealing, since teams would have extra incentive to finish top of the league. it would also allow those teams to sign an extra 5 players or so, bolstering their depth for their much longer season.

    i really would like to hear your thoughts on such an idea.

  15. Matt

    I love your Post, is very well written and I enjoy your math. But we not saying to extand the salary cap to 10mil. but at least double it from 2.5 to maybe 6 mil. that way we can bring more players which can help bring a better and exciting football soccer on the field. Yeah there is a lot foreign that would like all this and believe me those stadium will get full. Come one right now every where that Beckhams goes to play he fill those Stadium imagine if there were more player like him. plus we came bring more people that are doing well in this league like the names of Baros Schelloto, Emilio, Huckberry, Cuactemo Blanco, Christian Gomes and many more that not getting pay like the like of Beckham but are given their best on the Field. That is why I cry outloud for this league to stop putting more Ostical with this stupid salary Cup, I hope the raise it and raised the number for the roster to 28 player at least. But Matt You are right but I hope that u see our side too. I love Soccer and I Bleed this game and all I want is to go to see my team and to watch them play a beautiful game against a rival that have a strong team and give us a good epetacular game..

  16. The Chivas players might have an excuse not to put ENOUGH eggs into the CCL because they are fighting for a place in the MLS playoffs.

    As for the New England, they could use a sub/reserve team in the next MLS game because they have nearly all points that need to make the MLS playoffs.

    A disgrace their performance was!

  17. JC

    is not about excuses about the salsary cap or roster is the way this league been run, We don’t a commish.(Bob Garber) that know football soccer. He can from running something in the NFL so this league is run like the NFL. We need someone with more knowledge of Football soccer. Someone that can set up a salary cap with out spending a fortune or a roster that can hold playing in several competition. N.E. and Chivas are pretty tired after playing Superliga and in the MLS, Other Team like D.C. United and Dynamo they all play for the Sur Americana 1st leg. plus Superliga and the MLS that is very tireing for the players and plus the only getting pay peanuts.. Come on people if we a commish that can know what to do with this league we can get better player on the field. Have a very exciting league. Plus Salary Cap can only bring more player with some better quality of football and keep our own American player staying a little bit longer in this league before the try to go aboard.

  18. MLS might not be as good as many think but, for my money, MLS has very decent teams.

    Chivas should show greater effort in both of their games against Tauros. It was embarrassing to be dominated by a team that will not make 700 world club ranking list (if such thing exists).

    When it comes to the Revolution, what they did (didn’t do) was embarrassing to MLS and to the whole Noth America! If they only show up to do this much, they should vacate their spot for another more motivated team to go.

    In the SuperLiga, the $1M, or whatever money that was, motivated them. Here, I think they didn’t have that type of motivation.

    N.E. Revolution, most of the North America will be happy if you lose another final of the MLS Cup. Hell with you all! Stop embarrassing the rest of the league!

  19. I think people are being a bit harsh. Of course the Revs care…they don’t want to be embarassed (and they were). I don’t think Superliga jading them had anything to do with it other than to pile on a lot of games.

    I give Joe Public full credit, but the Revs with too many injuries and too many games were not prepared to play these games at a high level.

  20. MLS=Pathetic

    Until we free ourselves form the tight MLS leash. Results like this will be the norm we simply cant compete at the int’l. level its that simple. DC and maybe one other can. but thats it. This is a huge emberassment for anyone involved in MLS. For us not get all four teams in is a disgrace. And for those of u who point out the Supeliga that there is a mickey mouse tourney. When we play the Mex. teams they’re in preseason while we are at half way through ours. The Superliga needs to go and teams need to focus on this tournament more. How dumb can some teams be to just dismiss this tourney.

    CONCACAF Champions League Champ= FIFA CLUB WC=$$$$$$$

  21. so, Matt M you are saying that MLS will fold in few years, rihgt? They need to ofer much better product on the field.If not they will fold.

  22. While I agree that increasing the cap would help with depth and quality, as far as the Revs are concerned, how many teams around the world would easily deal with the loss of their top FOUR forwards, and the first alternate so to speak, in Steve Ralston? They showed in the early part of the season that had 4 legit MLS level forwards, and that Ralston could play there in a pinch as well, yet all 5 of them were out injured. Never mind not having your best defender, along with the starting right back and right mid. It was a bit embarrassing, but I put it more down to a larger than usual injury list, compounded by fatigue from the fixture congestion.

    As for the people who are done with MLS, good riddance. Please, tell us how the quality in the top divisions in England, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc, is better than MLS, it’s fascinating, we had no idea. If you were a true fan of the sport, you’d support it in this country, not go around telling people you’ll only watch the top teams in the world. Nobody in England is impressed when a person with no ties to Manchester claims to be a Manchester United fan, but here it seems that people expect someone to be impressed if they say they’re a fan of Man U or whomever.

  23. Guys, please.

    Will you quite with the “Just spend more money” crap?

    “Duhhhh, just spend more money. That will make the team better!”

    The reason why they don’t just triple or quadruple the salary cap is that whatever additional funds they get from having a better product will not be made good by additional revenue.

    The average MLS team gets about $7.5 million in ticket/concenssion recenue and next to nothing in TV revenue (per wikidpedia, its about $4 Mill per year for the the LEAGUE, not the individual teams).

    That is about $250K per team for TV rights. Wow.

    If we were to say, quadruple the salary cap from $2.5 Mill to $10 Mill. That’s another $7.5 Million needed in revenue.

    Remember that that is the amount teams receive in total ticket/concession sales.

    Going from $2.5 Million quality roster to $10 Mill quality roster is like going from a lower tier Norwegian division 1 team to a mid-table Norwegian division 1 team.

    Is there anyone reading this that truly believe that ticket/concessions would double in MLS if they go from Lower Norwegian league quality to mid-Norwegian league quality?

    Can anyone reading this name anyone in the Norwegian league?

    I suspect that $7.5 Mill each MLS team would spend would net the team perhaps another $1 Mill in revenue due to the improved play and, of course, the utterly HUGE star power associated with those playing fielded on Mid-Norwegian league rosters.

    I also suspect the “Duhhhh, just spend more money” crowd on this string tend to be those foreigners that can’t comprehend the idea that soccer isn’t accepted by the masses anywhere. That the statements that MLS has a limited following are lies as no one could possibly look at a soccer game for ten seconds and not realize that this is what is missing in their lives.

    Overspending by MLS is the biggest threat to the sports professional existance in the US.

    The second is lack of parity. Where English, Italian and other Euros may be so incredibly attuned to the game that they don’t care that the same teams are going to win every year, the US market is different.

    Trying to explain to someone why they should take up a sport in which everyone already knows the final standings before the season even begins is problematic at best.

  24. I dont understand the MLS vs EPL arguments relative to last night’s games. Did you guys see the NE game. Talk about a bumbling inaccurate Keystone Cops routine. NO MLS team is that bad, not even in Spring Training. These guys gave away ball aftet ball. When someone got deep down the sides there was no one in the center. The first goal JP scored the NE defender was in front of the JP striker. He seemed to have slowed down to let the striker get around him and even when he finally lunged for the ball, his leg never fully extended, allowing the striker to get a clean shot on goal.

    There is no way anyone who saw the game can come to the conclusion that NE was trying to win this game.

  25. The answer is E – all of the above. Both these teams are particularly decimated by injuries, but MLS needs to add more senior players and the cap space to pay them if they want to compete in these tournaments. The schedule congestion is also a factor; I don’t question the work ethic of the New England players, I just think they are burnt out by all these extra games, and they have the injuries to go along with it. They need more senior players to share the burden. Joe Public might have played 3 games last week, but New England has been playing extra games for months. I don’t think you should read too much into the score line; Joe Public had 11 men behind the ball, and pretty much scored all there goals on the counterattack. Their forwards looked good, but it’s a lot easier to look good with the kind of time and space they had on the ball…

  26. I don’t get the roster and salary cap comments because you’re implying that Joe Public and Tauro FC has a bigger budget than the MLS teams, which I highly doubt. I think it comes to down to MLS fans overrating the league. At the end of the day any excuses trying to explain away the losses will be just that, excuses. The better teams won. The funny thing is you won’t hear a peep from MLS and US blowhards like Greg Lalas or Frank Dell’Appa who argue till their blue in the face that the MLS is on equal footing with the Mexican league. It’s not and won’t be for a while.

  27. noname — well said. Joe Public played very well. I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around the fact that Harbour View has taken care of them for the most part in recent years, given Joe Public looked much, much better than the Harbour View team DC walloped at home back in the spring.

  28. Granted the MLS teams were depleted and gassed; but give some credit to Joe Public. They played some surprsingly good soccer choosing not to sit back and defend while on the road with a goal advantage; and gave us some really entertaining soccer. Robinson made some spectacular plays as did a few of his teammates. The team was well organized on the field. The back line never lost its shape and the spacing in the midfield allowed for good movement of the ball. I would like to know more about the coach. Where did he come from?

    Tauros wasn’t as exciting. They played conseratively until they went down a goal and then only really opened up the game once Chivas was a man down. I don’t see them doing all that well in group play…but Joe gotta like their style!

  29. These results are deeply embarassing and a mark against the way the MLS is run. My bottom line with MLS is that, all else being equal, huge numbers stars and other solid international talent would rather earn their living in NY or LA or Chicago or other great American cities than in many places in Europe or elsewhere. Tradition is important, but as Man City is proving, talent–all of it–is ultimately for sale. Heck, Rivaldo went to Uzbeckistan because of the money, and he’s still more talented than almost anyone in MLS. Get rid of the silly caps and other financial restrictions. Otherwise the current owners will be long gone or dead before MLS ever turns into a truely talent-based league. It may be a nice night out right now, but its hardly quality football.

  30. “MLS/American fans are always clamoring for respect they think they’ve already earned and reading about the way some referred to Joe Public and Tauro is hilarious now, especially after the 4-0 pasting the Revs received at home.”

    Best. Comment. Today.

    I’ve read much here in the past about what “my team” didn’t do to get a win in an out of league match. What happened to giving some respect to the better team? It’s sad that fans these days find whatever they can to discredit the opposing side when their team can’t get a result. What happened to saying good game with a tip of the hat to the opposition?

    I’ll say it again. . . it’s called making excuses. Get off of your high horses. It takes something more to give credit where credit is due. Even Ives sounded like an excuse machine when his side was knocked out against Crystal Palace USA in the OC. Are you still standing behind your excuses now that we see, through results, that MLS just isn’t that good? Or is it because of all the great reasons you’ve come up with to get to sleep at night?

  31. Kpugs,

    I can’t seriously believe you’re trying to make your point by using the MLS All-stars record against average EPL teams. That is pathetic.

    Those games mean literally nothing and they’re geared to give fans like you a false sense of reality as to where the league really stands.

    New England not only lost, they were SCHOOLED by what most consider to be an “inferior” team. Inferior by whose standards? Irrational MLS fans who overrate their league.

    hear that Kpugs? That’s the sound of fans like you waking up from their superiority dream.

  32. The worst part of last night?

    Montreal Impact – a USL team – made it through. That depresses me more than two other MLS teams getting wiped.

  33. You can expect to see F.G. Richardson in the MLS next season. No way he stays at a club like Joe Public. Rest assured he got some scout’s attention.

    On to my thoughts about these losses. I watched the NE game on FSC. They looked HORRIBLE. Even with the injuries, their discipline and marking in the defense was inexcusable. The only goal I would really consider Reiss’ fault was the 2nd, a near-poster from the flatest of angles that he should have saved. NE also squandered the looks they got on goal; or, when they got behind Joe Public’s defense, nobody ran forward, so crosses haplessly went across the middle. They definitely looked as though they didn’t care. Factor in no Twellman, Ralston, or Albright, and it was a recipe for a spanking.

    I didn’t watch the Chivas USA/Tauro match, so can’t really comment.

  34. MLS’s record is good against Euro teams because … 1) They stack the MLS all-star team with the best players from each team, and 2) the Euro teams don’t give a crap, and are are sweating out the beer.

  35. Hey New England Revolution in the words of Joe Public:

    “Ah, yeah

    Y’all, check it

    Kick this one for the Public

    Now break it down

    There’s so much wrong and negativity

    Enough for the whole world to see

    I know there’s still a possibility…”

  36. I don’t think the majority of us on this site overrate MLS. And John Leonard obviously doesn’t watch European football or the Premiership. Stoke City would be struggling (at best) to make the MLS playoffs over here. And I don’t care how much of a hater anyone wants to be…the league’s record against European competition is borderline EXCELLENT, including the all star games. And the haters will say they’re not trying, it’s pre-season for them, etc. Oh yeah? Well if MLS is so bad (or Europe is so great) shouldn’t they beat MLS regardless of your ridiculous reasons? I thought so.

    MLS is a pretty good league–not great–but definitely not awful. AND IT’S BARELY 13 YEARS OLD!!!!! Of course it’s nowhere near the Premiership. But there are MLS teams better than some Premiership clubs (sure, the WORST Premiership clubs, but that’s nothing to be ashamed of), and if you don’t believe that you definitely don’t watch both leagues, nor do you realize a lot of the European leagues are a century old or more.

    Bottom line is MLS clubs should not be losing to teams like this, but they do fairly consistently. And multiple competitions are no excuse, as we know the better clubs in Europe often compete in the league, one or more domestic cups, and if they’re good–Europe.

  37. One Less Fan has now posted the same comment 3 times–please we get it already.

    On to last night– I can respect Chivas, they tried to come out and play. When they were down one man they figured that losing by 1 would be the same as losing by 5 so they decided to get aggressive and go for it. It was a gamble and they lost, but at least they tried to win.

    The NE games was something different–very little effort displayed on the field in both legs. It was a shameful display. Thompson and Joseph where the only players out there last night who seemed to care. A fan who was at the Revs game last night said that he saw Mariner and Albright joking around and laughing on the sideline. It is clear that this tournament was not a priority for Stevie Nichol just like the US Open Cup was not a priority either. It is sad, but it is the truth.

    On the other hand, even if it is distasteful, it makes sense. If they had gone on, then the group stage would take place exactly when the final push of the regular season would take place and when the playoffs would begin. No one would want to be distracted at this important time. Assuming that they made it out of the group stage, they would then play again in the winter– the MLS offseason–how many coaches and players would like to do that? And then the final stages would take place in the preseason/early season.

    Until MLS gives teams larger rosters, higher salaries, bonus incentives, and allow them to actually sign players they want (the Kandji situation with NY was ridiculous) there will always be practical calculating coaches like Nichol who do the cost benefit analysis in their heads and conclude that it’s just not worth it to take on all these out of league tournaments. Nichol deliberately tanked the CCL tournament and decided to concentrate solely on MLS league play.

  38. First – RK covered my original point. Historically, DC United is the usual suspect among MLS sides that find themselves with an injured or exhausted team forced to play a crowded schedule – my point is that NE’s and Chiva’s performances reflect the same story DCU faced in past CONCACAF champions cups.

    Second – James raised the question at least once. The paltry salary cap and the rigid player designations (developmental, senior international, key grip, waterboy, etc.) keeps MLS teams from building much depth. Throw into that a ridiculously crowded fixture schedule (i.e., physios will tell you that players typically need 72-hours to recover from a game and that doesn’t include training/practice sessions)… and injuries are going to hammer your ability to step-up (Hats off to Houston (this is coming from a DCU fan) but let’s be clear that they had the fgood furtune of a healthy roster during last year’s tournaments).

    It’s not an excuse – just reasons contributing to what is now appearing to be a trend among MLS teams playing outside the regular schedule. Red Bull fans could afford to appreciate this given that there is a good chance that the Red Bulls will be playing outside the regular season schedule next year.


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