The Kansas City Wizards acquired U.S. U-17 national team midfielder Luis Gil through a weighted lottery on Monday, but Gil may not end up playing for them.
According to the Kansas City Wizards, Gil's contract with MLS has special considerations that should accomodate a trade to either Seattle or Real Salt Lake, but the Wizards will attempt to get Gil to reconsider.
What do you think of Kansas City landing Gil? Where would you like to see him wind up?
Share your thoughts below.
why so he can fail under the microscope of the media or progress incognito in kc?
IVES “youth national team players signed post-draft go into weight lotteries.”
Tell me where he said anything about an allocation draft, or about returning national team players.
fischy “they enter via the weighted lottery”
…so, you agree with Ives
Now Sheanon Williams, thats another story…
(SBI-The rule, as it is written, is that players signed to Generation adidas contracts (and before that, Nike Project-40 contracts) after the draft were assigned via weighted lottery. It just so happens that A) every player who was ever assigned through a weighted lottery was a U.S. youth national team and B) no established youth national team player that I can remember has ever been acquired by an MLS team via the Discovery Process. It’s all very fishy (no pun intended). Williams wasn’t even on the list of draft eligible players this year, meaning he was NEVER eligible for the MLS draft despite being a U.S. youth national team player and a highly-regarded college player. There would really be no reasonable explanation for how a player who fits these criteria would just wind up with any team and not have to go through either the draft or a lottery.)
If I’m SSFC, I trade Parke. It’s not like we’d miss him.
nah man luis is my bud he told his agent that when he was negotiating his contract he wanted seattle or rsl and this was over a month ago when i hung out with him hes a chill dude eager to play
Whoever brings victory to Seattle? 😉
ya Ives, any explanation why Sheanon Williams did not have to go through the lottery to find his job?
We don’t know that one way or t’other. No way does Seattle send Jaqua. Maybe Vagenas (no allocation).
You know funny thing is both of those guys along with Sigi and even Steve Nicol with his consistant run of MLS cup runner ups and SuperLiga win, are all more qualified than Bob!
I hope that LA who is the only team to win CONCACAF I believe, not sure maybe DC too? But LAG, Seattle and RSL should give Concacaf hell in their CL! Also Columbus should get out of the group as well, it would be funny if it’s 4 US & 4 Mexican teams in the quarters! LOL
ya im suprissed that LA is not one of the teams that has been quoted as where he will go.. LA seems like the perfect situation but maybe he wants to get out of the city…
ya he wants out of LA!
alexandria, i did not understand anything you said, expect for the last line which is the point of frustration.
new, more important question, what happens if RSL or Sounders can’t or don’t reach an agreement on the trade for him? do they have to? does his contract end if nothing happens? if the contract is voided for that reason is there any point to doing this lottery then?
I hear he is going to rsl
the contract has him going to the galaxy too as stated
LOL! That is flat-out ridiculous. There is ZERO chance of that happening.
Ives is confused. Returning national team players are subjected to the allocation draft. I don’t think that applies to youth internationals, but I could be wrong. Szetela went by allocation to DCU because he has a cap at the senior level.
Kyle Davies, like Luis Gil, signed a Generation Adidas contract with MLS outside the SuperDraft. Per the rule you’ve quoted, they enter via the weighted lottery, rather than the strict allocation order.
I don’t find any logic in that at all. A prospect is NO WHERE near the same thing as an established player. That’s why he’s a prospect. He MAY turn out to be good. He may not.
So as a recap for those of us that don’t follow the wizards, what do they need or might try to trade for.
WRONG!! Dom Kinnear = USMNT coach for 2014.
yes
Seattle might have the best leverage has in allocation money and the current rights to Jeff Parke who is on trial and has looked okay. Sounders actually have a dire need for an adequate right winger added with needed players at the position due to Champions league play, Sounders would seem the better destination.
Well played.
Any word on where the Czech game is gonna be played? I heard the Hartford rumour but I need to know when its def so I can buy my plane tickets. Gonna do a train trip and do both games, but plane ticket prices are going up by the day…
You know what I find funny is that a month ago everyone was clamoring for the league to sign up our young players, and how the league needed to bend a little to get these young guys to play here. And the league does it, and people complain about it. I just don’t get it. This league needs Gil and guys like him, in the right environmment he could be the first 15 to 20 million dollar guy the league sells, its a precedent the league is looking to snap up all the young guns and pay them more then what they would make at academies overseas. Does, this take away from the hartmans and van den bergh’s, unfortunatley yes, but who would you rather see play?
sounds like your describing the RB academy. =)
He is ready enough to handle MLS veteran players?
I’m guessing we will see something like a draft pick and the rights to a young player or something, nothing more.
I would say that someone like Sturgis is a possibility from Seattle except that Sturgis is actually playing really well so far this winter.
Please remember that Gil is still very young and seems unlikely to play for either RSL or Seattle except in U.S. Open Cup and whatever reserve matches they can muster.
he cant bolt he signed a contract with MLS. KC owns his rights. if he doesnt like it then he can sit out but that wont help his development
He needs to go to the Galaxy. He’ll have the best coach in MLS to tutor him, and learn from Beckham, Donovan and the rest of the veterans. I’ll cry if he goes to Seattle. The last thing American soccer needs is another reason for Sounder fans to gloat 😉
Have you ever seen him play? If you let him on the field, he will contribute much sooner than that. Like, maybe immediately.
I think the FA home grown talent goals as well as FIFA limiting players from signing abroad before age 18 had a greater effect. I may be wrong. Somebody wanna back me up on that lingering question?
Yeah all these rules suck, we should just have no rules where fake owners can come in buy a team and not pay the players wages. I mean who does this player think he is he doesn’t want to play for the vancouver grizzles and wants to play for an east coast team, defying all the rules, why can’t he just sign for the team he wants… oh wait because it doesn’t work that way.
I never said regulars. I said National team guys, You can admit their are guys on either side who have played international soccer right? So, therefore what I said was true.
Last year, RSL accepted a 2nd round pick from Dallas in return for Kyle Davies, (a US youth team player…and I believe captain). I would not be surprised if that is what is offered to KC for the services of Gil. It will be interesting to see how much negotiating power KC has in this situation, (i.e. when does the league step in and say…this is an acceptable trade offer?)…
I understand the complaints that KC needs a player now, (as opposed to a future draft pick), but in the end, KC will have come out of this situation with more than what they had in the beginning, (perhaps a free additional draft pick as a result of a lottery)…
Im going to go out on a limb here and say that if Seattle and RSL tried to colude like that the league would come down pretty hard on them.
Yeah, that’s against Spain in the U-17 world cup. That video doesn’t even show the whole thing. You can see the whole thin at 2:20 of this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T–FE4bUYQ8. And yes he definitely seems to be something special.
The problem with your analogy is that HR and finance aren’t competing with one another. They’re trying to keep the teams relatively equal in skill while still attracting young talented players. I bet the league insisted he OKed signing with more than one team. That way in theory the winner of the lottery still gets better because the two teams bidding for him will have an incentive to offer real value.
Why would Seattle send their 2nd most goal scorer last year for someone that won’t have any impact for 3 maybe 4 years.
No! Jaqua actually does some good. And is a quality garbage man. Plus just ask RSL how bad them want him. the one who WOULD bid the most should offer a 3rd round pick the other a 4th.
Send Jaqua or Vagenas + allocation money.
That puts too much power into the players’ hands and goes against the single entity philosophy…but I do agree that he should be able to go where he wants and teams should bid for him like any other league. but nooooo, MLS doesn’t like players having control, which is why we may not have a domestic soccer league this year.
Ives, who do you see Seattle, Chivas, and LA trading for Gil?
this allocation lottery/draft/random crap is hilarious. the player Never ends up on the team he wants to be on. why can’t he just sign with who he wants?
if its a single entity then why not, its like I apply for a finance dept. job but HR gets the rights, so finance needs to trade with HR so I can work in the department I applied for originally… I hope the new CBA comes quick and gets rid of this crap!
no way that statement is false
by my own account and something ive heard mentioned every time someone from seattle is on ESPN is that the pacific northwest is the most beautiful region in the nation 🙂
With the leverage that Gil had, wouldn’t a ‘west coast team’ have been part of the signing agreement?
yuck yuck yuck…. i will say that KC could be the only team MLS team sending a young player to the World Cup (Espinoza, I do think US team will have 2 but hey its something and he has grown in KC)
I think SSFC have enough matches this year between the MLS season, USOC, and CCL to get this kid on the pitch if he’s ready.
Gil doesn’t have the choice since he wants to be either RSL or Seattle. KC will choice the best offer that Seattle or RSL will provide. And it has nothing to do with who’s coaching USMNT.
Wouldn’t it be better for the Wizards if they could swap Gil for someone who could help them this season? Gil is found money, go ahead and exchange that money for something shiny.
That is definitely the way, uh huh uh huh, he likes it.
Jason Kreis= USMNT Head coach for 2014 World Cup. Why not go there and make friends