By DAN KARELL
With their chances of an English Premier League title growing dimmer by the week and their elimination from the FA Cup last Saturday, Manchester United enter the first leg of the League Cup semifinals knowing that it could be their best chance at bringing home silverware this season.
Standing in their way though is Jozy Altidore and Sunderland, who host the Red Devils for the second time this season on Tuesday afternoon. (2:45pm, beIN Sport USA).
Sunderland remain in the cellar of the Premier League standings but have shown more fight recently. In order to make it to the semifinals, Sunderland had to defeat Chelsea (2-1 in extra time) and Southampton (2-1), as well as a come from behind 4-2 victory against Milton Keynes Dons last August.
Heading into the Stadium of Light, David Moyes has selected a squad without the likes of either Robin Van Persie or Wayne Rooney, putting the onus on Danny Welbeck to lead the Man United front line.
If you will be watching today’s action, please feel free to share your thoughts, opinions and some play-by-play in the comments section below.
Enjoy the game.
I basically missed everything.
So, Jozy played well?
Would some kind soul out in SBI land be willing to break it down for me?
And on a side note, will you posters please stop using the phrase, “Calm down.”? It’s rather rude and has a sense of arrogance to it. Like, “I know better than you, so calm down.”. Not to mention, we are writing on an Internet page, not having a one-on-one conversation. Perhaps the other person is already “calm”.
I AM CALM DAMN IT!!! 😉
Calm down.
I was waiting for that…
Let’s see how many more we can get. 🙂
Okay, so Jozy didn’t score. But he was awesome, and I loved the way he comes in playing enforcer role and bit of payback to Raphael on his first play upon entering the game for the toe-stomp Raphael gave Borini for which Raphael should have received a second yellow card and Man U down to 10 men. The second bit of rough play by Jozy on Raphael he gets the yellow. All in a day’s work. I don’t care what anyone is saying Jozy is learning a new game at Sunderland under Poyet and this is going to benefit the USMNT in Brazil next summer. I mean, this is the big tough guys from Man U Jozy is going up against and each game he plays against that kind of talent he will be improving whether he scores or not. Jozy will score for the USMNT in Brazil.
Yeah, he has to figure out how to score in BPL. That takes some time. The same moves he used at AZ need to be refined bc he has less time and more physical defenders. This is compounded by the lack of service and the fact that he’s had 3 managers in 5 months at SAFC so he needs to learn new systems. Even when he’s not scoring, he’s holding the ball well and assisting on goals so he’s a very useful player. Ultimately, I think Poyet’s system will suit him well. The fact that there are lots of rumors over Fletcher being sold but none about Jozy makes me think that Gus thinks Altidore is the better long term fit. The new midfielder Alonso looked good today and they’re getting Bridcutt from Brighton too, so with Jozy and Ki, they should be able to patch together a nice possession game. Once that gets rolling, Jozy will see more touches,. guys will hopefully become more comfortable combining with him and he will start to get the ball more regularly in dangerous areas. Once that happens, his goal scoring form should improve.
that is exactly what I thought when Poyet was quoted today saying Fletcher can go if the price is right, that Poyet is opening the door for Fletcher to move on. I really thought Jozy was excellent today, not only great hold-up play but great defense and he is big and strong enough to mix up with big boys.
Jozy is assisting on goals? what does he have, like, one?
6 actually. most in the team.
Id doing a nice job of proving that h@ters are just lazy. Instead of actually watching games and trying to use their brains to analyze what’s happening or actually looking up a statistic, they just default to spewing hate. The ridiculous thing is that it would have been just as quick to look it up as to type his message.
He didn’t play bad, but “awesome” is a bit of a stretch. I am not a Jozy hater by any means, but he came in and did his job. Still, non-American Sunderland fans will ask more of him.
Yeah, he was solid, but not awesome IMO. Really had zero chance to score today and did just about everything you could ask of him but didn’t do anything special.
Um, strikers who do not score are definitely not “awesome”. Yeah, maybe he played some good hold-up, but Jozy needs to put the ball in the net when he has an opportunity.
No more missed sitters.
He should just watch tape of Lukaku over and over again, because that is what Jozy should emulate.
You really think Sunderland has the quality of Everton? Everton down a man out possessed Sunderland.
Everton have more quality than Sunderland. My definition of the term “quality” is skill , talent.
Being “outpossessed”, as you put it, by a ten man team is not that unusual and you would be reading too much into it if you use that as your evidence that Everton have more “quality”. Italy once had a tournament where they kept having guys sent off but they kept advancing. It was suggested that they consider starting the game with ten men.
It does mean Everton are well coached and disciplined.
Teams that are down a man can often become much more focused than the opposition who sometimes get a little complacent because of their advantage. And if you are only interested in possession in the middle third and are efficient with your attacking efforts the one man advantage can be managed.
THere were no opportunities today. Lukaku got in 16 games for Chelsea a couple years ago and scored zero goals. Granted, he was very young, but it goes to show you that even good goal scorers in great situations go through goal droughts. Those in the situation Jozy is in now are particularly vulnerable. It’s tough to find a rhythm with little service but I think he will find his footing. Be patient.
Calm down…He needs to score more. Yes. But perspective is needed. The team has changed Managers Idk how many times. He’s a young player, 1st yr of consistent EPL play. Yet He leads the team in assists. That tells you how awful the midfield is. The teams leading scorer has like 3-4 goals. Jozy has shown that he is a scorer. He is still learning how to score in the EPL. Once he gets it down; he’ll be fine.
Mr. Burn,
You are making too much of the missed sitters. I’ve seen Clint miss two or three in one game. Everyone misses. Everyone.
In the EPL:
• Jozy has 18 appearances, 1 goal, 1 assist and 21 shots.
• Fletcher has 16 appearances, 3 goals, 0 assists and 25 shots.
Please don’t tell me that Jozy is a quantum leap worse than Fletcher.
Sunderland is going to have to get rid of both, going by your logic.
These two are very different players. Fletcher is a classic Brit Route One aerial bomber (think Allan Gordon). Jozy is not as good in the air but is a better target man and more versatile and mobile.
Neither one has had a good year. Gordon looks better than Jozy in scoring terms because Sunderland have yet to come together as a team but Route One ball is something they can all figure out quite easily.
In other words, when all else fails keep pumping long balls into the box and let Fletcher chase it.
You could ask why Sunderland has not gone all that “Tony Pulis- Stoke” and maybe they will, but this group is not as disciplined as Stoke. And going that route would not make the best use of what talent they do have on hand.
The other thing is Fletcher is better than Jozy at that style but, overall, he’s not all that great.
Sunderland has some talent and if they are going to make a run, Poyet is going to have figure out how to get everyone going.
If he’s going to emulate anyone, he should watch Suarez–minus the biting, of course.
There’s hope for Sunderland. MUFC is even worse at Old Trafford this season.
Huge win by Sunderland in the first leg.
Altidore wins aheader there but to no avail. Now chasing the ball all over the pitch.
Is the game over? I just got in.
How was Jozy today?
2-1 Sunderland wins. a nice read on Jozy’s play by TomG’s above
Got about 25 minutes. Fletcher may be injured. Came in with a 2-1 lead and looked to get forward early but soon became a game of holding and possession which he did very well. He tried to run at Man U a couple times on the sidelines, but just led to throw ins. Made a couple nice defensive plays. Got a weird yellow from the ref. Good effort. Held up the ball very well, but never had the ball in a remotely dangerous position so not any chance at all for a goal.
Thank you sir! Excellent write up.
I have to head out now but keep it up. You do us all a great service. 🙂
Sunderland is just too awful… 🙁
And yet, they won the game.
That is crazy!
Did Jozy play well?
Jozy loses a 50 50 ball, going down a bit too easy?
horrible decision to fire away there, and miss o badly, instead of possessing the ball
it was not Jozy btw
More odd decisions by ref.
Nice hold up and lay off by Jozy.
looked like Jozy with the clearing header off the corner, 91st minute
Jozy with excellent glancing header out of trouble off of Manc corner.
yeah baby!
Jozy tries his luck again on the sideline but this time it’s ruled a Manc throw in.
Looked like a bad call.
ESPNFC also saying Fletcher subbed out due to injury. curious to see hear more about that later. at first i was like, “come on Jozy,” when i saw he got a yellow almost immediately, but it sounds like it was a harsh yellow.
Hernandez on for United.
Yes, BEIN announcers baffled. Just two guys wrestling for position and Jozy outmuscled the Manc defender who fell down.
gotcha. i’m mad at myself for not remembering to use beIN Sport Play at work to watch this!!!
10 men behind the ball now for the Black Cats.
you’re calling a good game TomG
thanks BB, I happen to be hom and have BeIN, so wanted to do a service for those of you who are stuck at work or whatever.
6 touches I think so far with no turnovers.
Maintaining possession nicely, but only a couple of his touches towards goal so far.
Jozy looks like lone striker pushed high, not necessarily his best role imo, may need to drop down to find the ball as Sunderland look to hang on
and just to help the D…the space above the 18 is wide open in Sunderland’s d 1/3 right now
Jozy wins a ball against Smalling who handles the ball to stop him.
Jozy being very physical with a yellow. Needs to be careful.
Jozy tries to take on 2 Manc defenders but can only draw a deep throw in.
Jozy with 4 touches so far, all pure.
Joay gets a yellow for being too big and strong for Man U.
Ref is extremely unpredictable, giving fouls, yellows and penalties for seemingly ordinary challenges.
Man, Januzaj looks dangerous every time he get the ball.
No doubt, a good player, and building block of the future MUFC.
Only the Mancs can make Sunderland look good this season.
Jozy’s in. Nice hold up play and distribution to start off.
Another nice pass to Johnson leads to corner.
Keep the updates coming. Please don’t make me yell for them.
Jozy is on now! Gametracker says Fletcher is hurt?
If he is out for a few games, it might relieve some pressure for Jozy to score knowing that he can’t be yanked for Fletcher.
Send in Altidore now.
Are you watching in Spanish? They were calling for him and there he is.
2-1 Sunderland.
I don’t like how they gave Vidic that free header. They did not challenge him on it.
Moyes gone at the end of the season….maybe earlier.
Hard to feel bad for a moron that paid 27.5 millions for Fellaini.
No way. He has a six year contract and was hand-picked by SAF. Besides, everyone knew going into the season that United’s squad needed revamping. The top teams typically don’t make hasty managerial changes; that goes for all sports.
You’re dead on about Fellaini, though, what a fiasco.
Nice to see you are so EXCITED by the game (or by the mere prospect of a game you admit you are not watching and unable to follow). We NEED that kind of enthusiasm to grow the game in the states.
To answer your question, Jozy himself is NOT WINNING, but his team is up 1-0 at the half. On the down side, Jozy is sitting on the bench. On the up side, he has yet to miss a sitter.
That got misplaced. Was supposed to be in reply to FRANK.
IS JOZY WINNING I CANT GET THE WEBSITE TO WORK TO WATCH IT
HE NEEDS TO PLAY BETTER TO GO TO THE NEXT WORLD CUP SQUAD
What’s that? Speak into my good ear, sonny.
Near as I can tell from his posts, “FRANK” got the caps lock button stuck on his computer months or even years ago.
Huh? Can you repeat that?
LOUD NOISES!!!!
If Jozy enters the game with more than 15 minutes to go, he scores today. You can count on it.
Leave it to johnny destroyer of knees evan to do something like that.
Dirty needless silly foul from Jonny Evans (surprise, surprise) knee in the back of Fletcher and on the free kick Sunderland jams the ball in the back of the net. Thanks Jonny. Cannot help but love the heart of this Sunderland team, although they do have it kind of easy playing a patsy of a team like Davie Moyse-coached Man U.
Looked like an own goal to me. I think Bardsley completely whiffed. Great set up by Wes Brown.
Poor David Moyes.
I want to root for the underdogs, but can’t– I’d never root for the mancs.
Jozy is pretty much a bench warmer for Sunderland at this point. Played himself out of the XI.
At least with Sunderland it won’t be long until some one else plays themself out of the starting line up.
He went 90 this past Sunday / Saturday? so there was little chance he would start today..maybe he gets 25 – 30 minutes
Purposely let him play the cup. Their going with Fletcher girls
? Has he lost a starting position for several league games in a row now? It seems I’ve been hearing that he’s “done” at Sunderland for several weeks now, but he still has been getting playing time after every time I’ve heard this…
Madden’s Chin: h@ter or tr0ll? Not sure. Clearly since you know just went 90 this weekend, your statement is obviously false , so you must be one of the two. Which are you?
Jozy went 90 in a cup game. Not the league.
Today was a Cup game. Not the league…
What is your point?
He was benched the last league game. His coach even decided he didn’t want him for THIS cup game.
that was against AV on January 1st. but the league game BEFORE that, on Dec. 28th, Jozy started and went 90. against Everton on the 26th? Jozy on the bench. the game before that, on the 21st? jozy started.
in short, it’s a clear alternating pattern between Fletcher and Jozy. now, i will agree that Jozy was the clear cut starter for much of early-mid December, in any game, so we can’t ignore that. but i would not say he has officially been relegated to a sub role.
when does transfer window close, any chance Sunderland upgrade their squad?
Believe it or not they just did.
Yes, they are upgrading. They are getting a midfielder with whom Poyet worked at Brighton. Go to the rokerreport.com for the transfer news or safc.com.
IS THIS ON THE TELEVISION I DONT HAVE FOX SOCER
“(2:45pm, beIN Sport USA).”
It’s on TV on BeIN Sports. Online streaming is probably your best bet.
Fox Soccer no longer… ohhhhhhh. Touche FRANK.
Man U may not win the EPL but they will be in the top 3. Man U, Man C, and Chelsea. It is a 3 team league. Yes, Arsenal will fold, maybe hold onto 4. Spurs, Liverpool, maybe Everton will fight it out for 5th. All others – so what. Who will be relegated? who cares.
EPL winners last 20 years:
Man U (13)
Chelsea (3)
Arsenal (3)
Blackburn (1)
Man City has one too: 2011/12.
Correction, apologies to Man C:
Man U (12)
Chelsea (3)
Arsenal (3)
Man City (1)
Blackburn (1)
Man City won 2 years ago and Man U is pretty bad this year FYI.
sorry, but this is not the manchester united of the last 20 years.
Well Jozy’s not in the starting 11. Not a big surprise.
apparently Jozy is on the bench. Hoping he gets 30 mins tonight