Jesse Marsch’s time with Leeds United may be over but his stay in the English Premier League isn’t reportedly set to be closing just yet.
Marsch is set to have talks with fellow EPL side Southampton, The Guardian and The Athletic both reported Monday. The news comes one week after Marsch was fired as Leeds United manager following an 11-month stay at Elland Road.
The American head coach replaced Marcelo Bielsa in February 2022, eventually leading Leeds United to league survival despite an inconsistent overall season. However, the Lilywhites have been in the bottom half of the league table for most of the season, leading to Marsch’s dismissal.
Marsch posted a 11-10-16 record across all competitions with Leeds United. Southampton fired Nathan Jones on Sunday, following a 2-1 home loss to Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Jones lasted 94 days as manager of the club, taking over for Ralph Hasenhuttl in October.
Southampton sits bottom of the league table with only 15 points earned through 22 matches. The South Coast club’s -22 goal differential is the second worst in the league behind 19th place Bournemouth.
Southampton visits Chelsea on Saturday before a six-pointer visit to Leeds United on Feb. 25.
Unbelievable, Jesse Marsch is expected to turn down the offer made by Southampton because of the duration of the contract. Like what??? Doesn’t he know he was just fired??? Instead of using this opportunity to show the league what he can do he turn it down?
It is said that Southampton may well have ended their interest in making Jesse Marsch their new manager after talks broke down based on the length of the proposed contract (I bet it was till the end of the season, so what), with Jesse wanting longer than the short-term deal Saints wanted to offer.
The entitlement is mind-blowing. You are a failed / fired coach just after 11 months since taking the job at Leeds United……..why does he think that HE EVEN DESERVES a long-term contract with the current state of your resume. Get in there, show your worth, keep Southampton up in the Premiere League AND THEN re-negotiate for a long-term deal.
Wow……
the odd part would be a short term deal was the premise from the get-go, as some comments below reflect. not like he was surprised what the paperwork said. maybe they thought they could show up and negotiate more time but emergency hires you want them in yesterday.
i thought this was a bad idea from saints’ perspective but for marsch i am on the fence. maybe he thinks he already proved his worth the first relegation save at leeds. maybe he wants a commitment or wishes he had a job higher up the table. but after how leeds ended beggars can’t be choosers. i think if he waits he’s not getting a primo job at all and we’ll see who bites — probably another similar team or championship.
He’s got enough money (would have had his buyout from Leeds). The to the end of season contract tends to indicate they want to turn the roster and change the concept. Hire Jesse until May to manage their Alpine Pressing roster and then bring in a different style and new players no matter the league.
nah. you hire a guy who plays the same way as the last because you want to play the same way. my dynamo hire 433 guys and even if olsen used to play another way he drinks the kool aid. if they wanted change whether they go down or not why not the present.
i think everybody these days has system-on-the-brain. they are a 4 win team surrounded by a few other 4 win teams. the route out is beat them to 5, 6, or so on. bluntly, that is not done usually by beating city or arsenal. those are usually write offs. you play hard every night but chase the points where the schedule offers them easier. bottom half type teams. i believe to give city a game you were built x way. it has to be purpose built and show up ready to play. though to be real about it, if i’m gonna lose, why not work on the new system.
but to get points off bournemouth, everton, leeds? i don’t buy it. i bet you could show up looking however you want that works. those teams are similarly talent shy. so trust in some winner coach to divine new players to use, or new alignments. to me the table is shouting whatever you just did doesn’t work. not sure how that’s a vote for conservatism unless you are wedded to a look and will go down playing that way.
Jesse Marsch to be named new Southampton manager!!!!!
The Guardian, The Athletic, Sky Sports, Fabrizio Romano and the BBC have all reported that Jesse Marsch has agreed to the terms, and that is just signing a short-term contract (to try and save Southampton from relegation) till the end of this season. My dude is there for a brief period, kinda like for damage control, and to TRY and salvage that 17th spot. It is believed he could be in charge this weekend for their trip to Chelsea on Saturday. Mark your calendars:
Saturday, February 25
Southampton vs Leeds, at Elland Road
This is why I love the EPL!!!!!
to me hiring a coach with the same ideas as the predecessor who left you 20th/20 is kind of dumb unless you’re just giving up to go down, which 12 games to go and 3 point gap is kind of early. i know he saved leeds before but the window is over and that was with leeds’ players not saints’.
there are other defensive strategies. there are other tactics. and far as i am concerned the high press stuff is like childishly naive. 40 GA is screaming whatever you are doing on defense doesn’t work. what they need is some offense. less than a goal a game. but to be fair everyone from forest down all looks similarly shoddy.
They tried Nathan Jones and a different approach but they went 1-0-7. Hassenhuttl and his press earned more points than that even if GD was worse. This is a concession that their roster as it stands is built to play one way. Hassenhuttl’s teams had success in the past from being more possession based than Marsch’s so the managers are similar but not necessarily exactly alike.
i don’t believe with a good coach there is literally only one way a roster can play out. i think this is the lazy easy road out.
second point, i think it’s conservatism. at their level in the table you are talking about teams averaging less than a point a game and a win 18% of the time. simply running out boring 0-0 ties every week, or raising their wins to 22% gets you safe.
eg my horrid dynamo moved up from last to next to last, last season, basically off quintero playing 10 instead of sitting. 6 more GF, slightly more GA, lost even more games than the previous season, but won more games instead of tying like ramos did. which nets out slightly better as table points and off the bottom. they are still crap but like we’re talking if a team with 1 shutout can just get a few more. or figuring out enough offense to beat some relegation competition like leeds.
EPL is not MLS where most of the west won 10 games, just being competent might move you safe.
Jones 1-0-7 0.375 pts per game.
Ralph 3-3-8 0.857 pts per game.
35 is kind of the number you’ve had to get most years so Jesse has to do better than both at this point. I’ve only seen Southampton against Leeds in the fall so I have no idea why Jones approach didn’t work, but seems clear the powers that be regret getting rid of Hassenhuttl.
This would be entertaining. Marsch could be the motivator they need because a last place team in the second half of the season needs fight and belief more than anything. Yet, Southampton is likely to be relegated. If he could stay on the Championship would be a good place for him right now.
So…I really like Jesse.
I also am shocked at how many chances he is receiving. Charisma is a superpower.
Well, if Southampton hires him it would only be his second chance, wouldn’t it? Leeds hired him after a not so good stint at Leipzig, and now Southampton might hire him after a not so good stint at Leeds. Unless you’re going all the way back to Montreal?
Anyway, part of what might be appealing to Southampton is that Marsch will play a similar style as Hassenhutl did, so maybe they figure there won’t be any adjustment period for the team and they can hit the ground running.
Southampton is not a super desirable job at this time.
Yes, it’s an EPL club but their league position is terrible. I’m not familiar with their talent but there isn’t a ton of time left.
Relegation is much more likely than not.
If you are some promising hot shot you would prefer to not start out your EPL career with a relegation. That sends you to the Championship which has often been described as not the best but the toughest, hardest league, to play in. Don’t be fooled by yo-yo teams like Fulham. They were more of an EPL- lite team than a Championship team.
Getting promoted is very, very hard
Which means Southampton is probably down to the usual suspects, like Sam Allardyce. And that’s not necessarily bad but fans always think they “deserve” the new hot young savior. And Southampton are about out of time.
People forget now but Jesse did keep Leeds up last season when brought in under similar circumstances. So Southampton’s interest is not so weird.
Jesse probably eats this kind of challenge right up.
Remember, he was supposedly going to stay with Leeds even if they had gone down last season. Given the legacy of Red Bull Ralph, who had his ups and downs, basically Jesse would be picking up where he left off the last time.
It seems like relegation is very likely so Southampton are going to give Ralph’s thing, which is already in place and is not going to change before season’s end, one last go around.
Jesse has proven to be a pretty good salesman so I can see him making this sale.
i do think it’s a decent thing a non-american owner would hire him, and that he has apparently attained some cachet as an exemplar of a tactical “type.” now, is it at point just england hiring the same relegation fighter coaches over and over even if his last employer is in distress too? yeah, but we’re at least in that lazy conversation. before it would have taken a miracle, dual nationality, or american ownership. that’s something. we’re at the late 90s joe max moore and brian mcbride in everton kind of stage on coaches.
Have you followed the EPL at all? They recycle old managers all the time. Guys like Steve Bruce have probably managed 8 to 10 teams over the last 20 years.
YYYUUUUUPPPPPPPP……..I wonder why Southampton is after Marsch. Hmmmm……..Maybe because they are fond of the pressing style that Jesse brought to the premiere league. Or maybe because of the his overall possession percentage game after game, even in games that they lose…..which is just a testament to lack of quality firepower up top (cough….Bamford sucks lol).
Marsch’s high press with the speed of James Ward-Prowse (Midfield, England National team), Paul Onuachu (Forward, Nigerian National team), Kamaldeen Sulemana (Forward, Ghanaian National team), Jan Bednarek (centre-back, Poland national team), Mohammed Salisu (centre-back, Ghana national team) could be a problem for teams AND THEIR SCHEDULE IS NOT THAT BAD
Saturday, February 18
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge
Saturday, February 25 ***hahaha***
Leeds, Elland Road
Saturday, March 04
Leicester, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, March 11
Man Utd, Old Trafford
Wednesday, March 15
Brentford, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, March 18
Tottenham, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, April 01
West Ham, London Stadium
Saturday, April 08
Man City, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, April 15
Crystal Palace, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, April 22
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium
Wednesday, April 26
Bournemouth, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, April 29
Newcastle, St. James’ Park
Saturday, May 06
Nottingham Forest, The City Ground
Saturday, May 13
Fulham, St. Mary’s Stadium
Saturday, May 20
Brighton, The American Express Community Stadium
Sunday, May 28
Liverpool, St. Mary’s Stadium
LLLLEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT GGGGGGOOOOOOOOOO JESSE / SOUTHAMPTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leeds had possession because teams let them. They couldn’t break down a set defense because they didn’t have a true 10, but guys like Gnoto, Aaronson, Summerville and Rodrigo are dangerous in transition. Then the ball turns over teams countered hard against Leeds suspect backline. Marsch beat Chelsea ad Liverpool because they tried to play their regular styles and Leeds hit them in transition before their defenders got organized. Against teams like Fulham and Brentford they got beaten because they got beaten on counters. Possession doesn’t always equal dominance.
I’d add that in games I saw, so often Leeds would be creating good chances, then they would make a bad pass around the box or they would miss open shots.
Kind of makes sense since the team was built by fellow Red Bull product Hasenhuttl.
Scenario 1: Jesse keeps Southampton up while Leeds goes down.
Scenario 2: Both go down and Jesse has to challenge them for promotion next season.
Scenario 3: Leeds hire Hassenhutl and both stay up.
However it works out I hope they hire Jesse. It would make for some great irony and a lot of entertainment. I think, a lot of people forget about Hassenhutl’s Red Bull lineage.
It would be somewhat weird if both fired their manager because it wasn’t working and then hired the manager in the EPL that is most tactically similar to the guy that just got fired. At least with Southampton they can say the reboot under Jones didn’t work.
I think it would be a first for two teams in the EPL to “exchange” managers and then both stay up.
Or not stay up.
Actually just the exchanging part would probably be unique.